Wednesday 24 February 2016

Potassium Hydroxide Bar Soap

I have searched for recipe's for bar soap made from KOH with little sucess.  I found a French site that claimed success with salt but refused to share their recipe details.  It was stated to be very gentle on the skin. Another was a survival web site and they used Borax and Ammonia but this was complicated and I'm not using those ingredients for soap. Others say you can only use animal fat.

I based my process on historic accounts of soap making (though they had no recipes) and the principles of thickening liquid soap

The key ingredient is salt. Because higher levels of Coconut oil and castor oil in liquid soap wont allow it to thicken with salt I kept these two ingredient quantities low.  I knew Beef Tallow or Lard was used in the past so would work,  Olive Oil as this thickens very well with salt in liquid soap so am confident with this.  I have read that Shea Butter has been used. I had also read that salt should be 20% of the oil weight.

My first attempt worked very well and you can read about thiat but I have simplified this recipe and process and it is working really well.

Recipe:
Palm Oil          760gm
Coconut Oil     120gm
Castor Oil         120gm
Potassium Hydroxide  224gm (gives a 1% Super Fat)
Water                           380gm
Himalayan Salt            150gm  (fine ground)
30gm Oil of your choice added at trace to increase the super fat to 4%
32gm Essential Oil for fragrance and health benefits.

I dissolve the salt in the water prior to adding the lye.  Some of the salt will not dissolve but I like this as a salt bar.  This has a salt level of 16% but you could try lowering it, but I don't know how low you can go. Just make sure the lye is stirred really well.  It is not a drying soap.

I advise wearing a dust mask as well as safety glasses and gloves as the Potash is a bit dusty.  This is easily breathed in.

Very easy to make and handles well. After a day or two the pH drops nice and low. Nice bubbles,  very creamy and a gentle cleaner.  A favourite to make and use.

If altering the recipe be mindful that soap with higher levels of Coconut oil and Castor oil do not thicken with salt.  I am not exactly sure of the percentage but it is not much higher than I have used here.

In hot weather I have had the batter curdle on me as I mixed it and also after it was poured in the mould.  The reason for this is heat of the batter.  Best solution is to sit your pot of soap batter in a basin of cold water (I added ice packs). As it cooled it thickened up nicely. I now sit my moulds on ice packs just to prevent this happening in the mould.

An alternative recipe with Beef Tallow
Beef Tallow              660gm
Olive Oil                   100gm  (to increase the conditioning level)
Coconut oil                120gm
Castor oil                   120gm
Potash                       217gm  (gives a 4% super fat)
Water                         380gm
Himalayan Salt        150gm

My First Potash Soap.
When I turned the solid KOH soap from the mould it was pH 7ish on litmus paper.  It was firm but spongy to squeeze, not soft.  It sliced well and was a pale yellow/creamy colour.
Hard Potash / Potassium Hydroxide Bar Soap

 Because the pH was so low at the early stage I used some trimmings to test washing my hands.  It didn't feel like NaOH uncured soap (slimy).

It has a mottled whitish effect which was not undissolved lye, but salt as much of it didn't dissolve in the water prior to adding to the oils.  Small salt granules catching the light. The zap test was good and had a pleasant enough taste.



If you use Hymalayan salt you will benefit from the minerals that are removed from refined salt. You also don't get the anti-caking agent in refined salt (and what ever else they put in it). I would dissolve the lye in the water before adding the salt as a lot of the salt wont dissolve and I like to see that the lye is dissolved.

It came to trace quite quickly but there was no panic to get it into the mould.  It didn't heat up as much as Na OH soap and didn't go through a gel phase even though I had covered it with a towel.

The cost of the salt is offset by the very cheap price I paid for a big bag of Potassium Hydroxide from a pool chemical outlet.

You can make your own Potassium Hydroxide (Potash) running water through ashes. There are web sites that show how to do this.

3 Weeks Later
I used this from the second day to test because of the very low pH (in the 7 range) and it was very easy on my skin and tolerated water well right from then.
The hardness rating on SoapCalc is not relevant.  It starts off a bit sponginy but hardens up beyond the rate given on SOapCalc.  The yellow colour has faded to a very white in colour.  The lather is creamy and lightly bubbling.   I'm very happy with the very creamy feel of it.  It is moist to touch with humid weather.  In spite of this it is not slimy or messy. For a mild and gentle soap I would rather have this than Castile soap (80% Olive Oil) because the salt bar doesn't leave such a mess when wet.  There is no scratchiness though there are some salt crystals

Conclusion 6 months later
I have given some bars to friends for testing.  One told me that at first she thought it was drying but then she noticed that the dermatitis she had always suffered was clearing up.  When it was gone, the skin looked good.  No dermatitis and no dryness. No one I have given them too has reported drying.

This is being reported by friends as their favourite of the soaps I make including goat milk soap with very good results for skin conditions.  This is far less complicated than making a milk soap.

I am thinking that it will be good for acne and skin infections. I am very happy with this soap.

Brine Bar:  This is where all the salt is dissolved in the recipe water.  A salt bar has crystals.
Some people add the salt at trace to keep the crystals when using NaOH but at the moment I am more confident dissolving as much as possible in the water as I am reliant on the salt to thicken.

Making your own Potassium Hydroxide
Correction - This is actually Potassium Carbonate and Sodium Carbonate. From my reading it would appear that the characteristics of KOH and K2CO3 soap is the same.
To make your own Potassium Carbonate, or potash you collect ashes and percolate water through them and collect it.  Wooden hoppers were traditionally used and lined with straw for a filter and the ash put on top.

This water will be very alkaline and damaging to your skin.  In history, this water was concentrated by evaporation till a feather could dissolve and a fresh egg would float so it sat half in the water.  I do not have the quantities that should be used.

One day I plan to try this.  At the moment I think the best way to work out the quantity is to get an accurate measurement of the pH of the lye water used from my "pool chemical" NaOH, then use the same amount of water at the same pH from ashes.

Other variations of KOH soap are: Note Correction
Black African Soap and Gray Polish Soap both of which are prized for their gentle cleaning characteristic.

24 comments:

  1. thank you very much. I will try to make this soap this year. If I make changes to your recipe, I will let you know of the results. :-)

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  2. Thanks a ton for this recipe! Can't use beef tallow! Palm oil unavailable! Since I live in South india, I had to substitute palm oil with palmolein oil. Soap came out just great! But started Watering during the rainy season ... Plz help!

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    1. Hi Niveditha,
      Natural soap will attract moisture in high humidity - it is the sign of a good soap. Also with the added salt this may be worse. This happens to me here in our subtropical climate sometimes too. All I can suggest is to store the unused soap in a sealed container with something like a paper towel (soft paper) to absorb some moisture. All the best.
      I was in India in January...and took some soap for friends who don't have much. Amazing place.

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  3. Good post. Have you tried a tallow and potassium hydroxide only combination? If so, what would be the measurements?
    I am allergic to all these plant oils - palm, coconut and castor!

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    1. 380gm water, 208gm Potassium Hydroxide, 1000gm Beef Tallow. 150-200gm table salt (not iodised) 35gm Essential oil (optional). A nice hard bar. Not very bubbly. Gentle cleaner, very creamy. 6% Super fat to compensate slightly low conditioning. Very traditional soap.

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  4. Fantastic! I followed your recipe with a major tweak and it looks good so far! I am really hoping that there is a noticeable difference between typical lye soap. THANK YOU!

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  5. Awesome post,thanks for posting this .I have often wondered how to make hard bar soap with KOH.I have made soap with KOH using the hot pressed method and I noticed that because of the humidity in Nigeria it turned to gel without me diluting it with water.Will give your recipe a try and give you feedback.

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  6. I am making my own KOH out of wood ashes should I cook down to crystals or can I cook down until an egg floats? I dont know how to measure how much potash when its already in solution. Any help is greatly appreciated

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    1. Unfortunately Any advice on this is only theory as I have not tried it, however I would start by taking the pH with a pH of the lye water once the egg floated with a pH strip to get a base line. if it is about the same as KOH lye strength, I would use the same volume and treat it as a KOH soap. I would hot process it and take pH readings. If it is lye heavy I would add oils at 5 % until the pH is Alkaline.
      Keep notes at each step so you can reproduce it and know what volume of lye water to use for your oils.
      A forum I read says there was no way of getting it right but I would try to work it out regardless. I'm not convinced everyone was made burning soap in the old days.

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    2. Hello, I made potash using olive wood ash and its pH is 13. Would you mind telling me what the pH is of your alkali when you mix the KOH flakes with water?

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    3. In addition, to anyone wandering on measurements for potash, I used 1 part wood ash to 2 parts water, and this only took one steeping to get the base of pH 13.

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  7. Positive site, where did u come up with the information on this posting?I have read a few of the articles on your website now, and I really like your style. Thanks a million and please keep up the effective work. coconut oil pulling

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    1. Thank you for the positive comment.
      Surely there is information like this somewhere on line but I couldn't find the details and had to work it out. I found more information on survivalist websites but only one thickened their soap, using borax and ammonia. I didn't like the idea of ammonia. I haven't used borax but suspect it could work.
      I enjoy sharing what I have learned. When I started learning soap making I had to go to many different sites for various information and wished it was more simple than that. I have endeavoured to write down everything I wished I could have found on one site.
      I also enjoy writing.

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  8. It is refreshing to find like minded individuals that want to return to more natural chemical free products. I have made soap and vitamin C and use animal aspirin, since it has no extra ingredients.

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  9. Atractyloside potassium salt is the potassium salt of atractyloside, which inhibits oxidative phosphorylation by blocking the transfer of adenosine nucleotides through the mitochondrial membrane. Atractyloside potassium salt

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  10. What would recipe be for shaebutter

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  11. What would recipe be for just shaebutter

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  12. Are you sure you just want to make soap with Shea Butter?
    It doesn't have a cleaning or bubbling quality in it.
    Even a high level of Shea seems an expensive exercise.
    If you really wanted to use a high percentage of Shea Butter I would go 78% Shea butter, 22% Coconut oil.
    190gm Water
    103gm KOH
    390gm Shea Butter
    110gm Coconut oil
    total 500gm oils
    90gm Salt

    Hardness 52 (not so relevant using the KOH and salt)
    Cleaning 15 (OK)
    Conditioning 44 (Just in the recommended range but fine)
    Bubbles 15 (Just in the recommended range on the low side)
    Cream 38 (fine)
    All the best.

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  13. Hi! I’m in an area that has tons of coconuts available and have been making oil from them. I have been making a 100% coconut oil soap with seawater using store bought NaOH. Since I have so many leftover coconut husks from the oil making process I would love to make my own KOH lye from the ashes, as it is a softwood. Do you think a KOH soap with 100% coconut oil and 10% super fat made with sea water would harden well, or should I plan on adding additional salt?I know that sailor soap was traditionally made with KOH in order to work in saltwater, but I haven’t been able to find out if it was a hard or liquid soap. I was so surprised to find so little information on KOH hard soap on the internet! Thank you for your article!

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  14. I didn't answer correctly so deleted it.
    I don't think you can get the soap to thicken at all.
    This is from my experience trying to thicken liquid soap that had high levels of either coconut oil or castor oil.
    It may be that there is another additive that will work but salt will not do it and if I remember rightly borax wont either.
    If you do find what works please let me know.

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  15. How did you calculate your salt water concentration? I keep calculating it to be 28%.

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  16. Thank you so much for the recipe. It's the only one I found with koh for bars. (everybody else say that koh is for liquid soap only) I tried the recipe and I am very happy with it. I am so grateful for you posting it. Can you please help me understand how did you calculate the amount of koh for the above recipe? Putting it in the soap calculators, they give you a lot lower amount of it needed, and I am wondering how to calculate it accurately(your way) for different combinations of oils. Thank you sooo much again for this.

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